WED-1333
images that used to appear have stopped appearing in the Inventory preview panel in the WED 2.30r1
Closed
Bug report
Reported by:
DonH
on November 7, 2020 8:20 PM
Assigned to:
Michael Minnhaar
Is there some key entry that toggles the images off and on on the Inventory preview page?
Michael Minnhaar November 7, 2020 11:40 PM
Please provide
Pedro Magueija November 8, 2020 6:10 PM
I'm also experiencing this issue. There is no preview for facades or objects anymore.
Screenshot attached.
Pedro Magueija November 8, 2020 6:11 PM
Screenshots
Pedro Magueija November 8, 2020 6:14 PM
There is some issue with the website as well. The correct screenshot is the one from WED.
Pedro Magueija November 8, 2020 6:17 PM
And the WED_Log.txt
Michael Minnhaar November 8, 2020 6:47 PM
Those facades show for me just fine.
That red frame around the library preview window - is that something you added or do you see that on screen ?
Also - unfortunately WED didn't print much into the logfile - as if it had crashed, very early on, which is really odd.
Can you redo the test using the WED version attached at https://gateway.x-plane.com/bug_reports?tab=scen_tools&selected_issue=WED-1327 and make sure you normally close WED first before copying the logfile ? Its should end with something like "WED closed normally", very similar to X-Plane's logfile.
Pedro Magueija November 8, 2020 7:32 PM
Hi Michael,
I added the red frame just to highlight the location. I'll redo the test as you suggested.
Regarding the log file, I think I had WED still open when I uploaded the file. My bad.
I've uploaded another one after closing WED.
Pedro Magueija November 8, 2020 7:36 PM
Unfortunately, the "extra" version is not displaying the facades/objects either.
Screenshot attached (no red frame).
Pedro Magueija November 8, 2020 7:37 PM
And the log from the "extra" version (after closing).
Michael Minnhaar November 8, 2020 8:16 PM
Thank you.
I just deleted the unwanted attachments to reduce the confusion about what the relevant ones are.
Michael Minnhaar November 8, 2020 8:19 PM
One last question - do you have any addon/3rd party scener libraries installed ?
If so - please also attach the X-Plane Log.txt - since WED does not (yet) print the libraries in its logfile.
Pedro Magueija November 9, 2020 11:33 AM
Negative on the 3rd party libraries for scenery. I do have lots of plugins (IVAO, LiveTraffic, BetterPushback, etc...). I'm not sure these would affect WED, but I can upload the log if you feel it will be helpful.
Let me know.
Thanks.
DonH November 10, 2020 2:28 AM
It does not let me reply.
DonH November 10, 2020 2:31 AM
ok very short ones
DonH November 10, 2020 2:33 AM
/Users/donaldrholman/Desktop/WED 230r2.jpg
/Users/donaldrholman/Desktop/Wed220.jpg
DonH November 10, 2020 2:36 AM
some polygons are still being shown but the rest of the Libraries are not being show.I am Using:
iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, 2019
3.6 GHz Intel Core i9
64 GB 2667MHz DDR4
Radeon Pro Vega 48 8GB
macOS 10.15.7
Xplane 11.50r3 (64 bit)
X55 Saitek Pro Rhino Stick X55 Saitek Rhino Throttle
Michael Minnhaar November 10, 2020 4:54 AM
Don,
please post the WED_log.txt found in the directory where the executable is.
Also - the image 'Wed220.jpg" was not attached. Just decribe briefly what you see in wed_220, no need for images.
DonH November 10, 2020 6:48 PM
Hi Michael,
On my Mac is a folder, "wed_mac_230r2" inside that folder is a "read me" file and a WED.app.
If I look into the contents of the app..there is no WED_log.text. Same with the "wed_mac_220r2" folder
When I am using the "wed_mac_220r2".... I select an item in the top left inventory pane, then, on the bottom left pane is a preview window that shows a visual representation of 99 % of all the third party libraries and ALL of the Laminar"s (X-Plane) library items representation .
When I switched over to the "wed_mac_230r2"... I select a item in the library and only, about 2% of the items selected show a visual representation in the Preview pane. Yes, I have third party libraries..and have removed all of them only to find that the preview panel still only shows a very small fraction of the items available. The ones that show are the asphalt. pol in the Laminar Library. Now here is the strange part, I started using the "wed_mac_230r2" almost right after it came out. The Library preview pane was still working. This is something that has just happened. So, I am assuming something triggered it. That is why I thought maybe there was a special key command to turn that preview panel off and on. I have switched back to "wed_mac_220r2".
I hope this helps.
I have found a lot of other WED files.. I can send them to you if you think it would help?
Michael Minnhaar November 13, 2020 7:00 PM
It appears you are running WED *without* extracting it from the zip files, using the VFS. Such operation is not supported and can cause a number of problems - the missing Log file being one of them.
Please extract WED.app from the zipfile, place it in some other folder on your harddrive and then run it from there. Its likely best to delete the zipfile afterwards, to prevent any further confusion.
palple November 14, 2020 8:38 PM
The same is happening for me, I'm with Catalina, on a 2020 iMac with 5700xt videocard. Previous versions work fine though.
Michael Minnhaar November 14, 2020 10:27 PM
All,
I need you to try one of the here attached WED test versions "WED_*_msaatest".
These might already show the previews right out of the box, but I also need you to press and hold the "Shift" key while an 3D object or facade is selected for preview. Holding the shift key may or may not change things for you.
After that test, regardless if successfull or not , I would like to see the resulting WED_Log.txt.
Also - I need windows and OSX user reporting about this test.
DonH November 15, 2020 1:24 AM
Aye Aye
Pedro Magueija November 15, 2020 10:55 AM
Testing the Win version now.
Pedro Magueija November 15, 2020 11:02 AM
Unfortunately, the preview is not showing. I'm not sure if it helps but, the lines (.lin) and the Ground Signs (.pol) do show normally.
Here is the log produced by the "new" version:
log.txt for WordEditor 2.3.b1 ( Windows )
compiled on Nov 14 2020 00:11:10 with MSC 1916
WED started on Sun Nov 15 11:58:25 2020
I/MAIN locale now Čü 10003.14 LC_CTYPE = 'C' LC_ALL='C'
I/WGL glewInit OK
OpenGL renderer : GeForce GTX 780M/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL Version : 4.6.0 NVIDIA 425.31
Max texture size : 16384 DXT : 1 POT : 1 RGTC : 1
FBO : 1 VBO : 1 MSext : 1
X-System folder : G:\Steam\steamapps\common\X-Plane 11
I/MAIN initializations done, run app now ...
I/Doc reading XML from G:\Steam\steamapps\common\X-Plane 11\Custom Scenery\FOOL\earth.wed.xml
I/Doc opening new scenery window, initial win xy -8 -8 wh 1920 997
I/Doc desktop rect 0 0 1920 1080
I/Doc size from prefs xy -8 -8 wh 1920 997
----- WED has shut down -----
Michael Minnhaar November 15, 2020 10:55 PM
You forgot to check the shift key ... see my instructions.
Pedro Magueija November 16, 2020 12:26 PM
Michael,
I did indeed forget to "RTM". Sorry.
I've now tested holding SHIFT then clicking on a facade: It works
Also works with .obj
I'm guessing you now know what is the problem?
Thanks again for your efforts.
Michael Minnhaar November 16, 2020 5:25 PM
Yep - that is the exact info I needed to pinpoint the problem to within 3 lines of code
Michael Minnhaar November 16, 2020 7:30 PM
All,
it appears you are overriding the MSAA settings for WED using the graphics driver settings.
WED is not supporting that - you MUST let WED choose its own MSAA settings. That is the root cause of previews not showing.
Pedro Magueija November 16, 2020 8:22 PM
Michael,
Great catch
I've configured my NVIDIA Control Panel for WED to allow WED to decide regarding AA and it works now on the released version (2.3.0).
Thanks again for your help sorting this out.
Cheers.
Michael Minnhaar November 16, 2020 8:46 PM
The next WED version will automatically detect if you do this and stop trying to do its own MSAA.
DonH November 18, 2020 3:27 AM
holding down the shift key on my Mac did not allow me to see the previews.
sorry
Michael Minnhaar November 18, 2020 9:10 PM
Don,
please post the WED_Log.txt from that test run. And note - you must use the attached test version and it must be unzipped and put into a separate, regular directory before executing it.
palple November 21, 2020 10:03 PM
Here's what I get on my Mac (currently running Big Sur, was the same on Catalina) with the 5700XT videocard. Sometimes the preview is completely empty, sometime I can see a preview full of artifacts. I always see that strange blu edge. Everything is fine with Wed 2.2
palple November 21, 2020 10:15 PM
I apparently missed the test run so i could not test the shift key and the subsequent log, sorry.
Stephen Kruse December 17, 2020 3:51 PM
Sorry to join this discussion so late, but I've run into the same issue. However, I've discovered it only occurs when placing new objects. If I copy an existing object and then change the parameters so that it references the desired resource (e.g. copy an object that references "lib/airport/Common_Elements/Hangars/Med_Gray_Hangar.agp" and change it to "lib/airport/Common_Elements/Hangars/Med_Brown_Hangar.agp") it shows the preview, even though placing a NEW instance of that same Brown Hanger doesn't. Tried it in both 2.2 and 2.3 so I don't know when this issue popped up. It'd definitely be good to get this preview back.
DonH December 27, 2020 5:06 PM
I cannot find ANY...WED_Log.txt.. where should it be ..on my Mac?
I am Using:
iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, 2019
3.6 GHz Intel Core i9
64 GB 2667MHz DDR4
Radeon Pro Vega 48 8GB
macOS 11.0.1
Xplane 11.50r3 (64 bit)
X55 Saitek Pro Rhino Stick X55 Saitek Rhino Throttle